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- 001
„For certainly old age has a great sense of calm and freedom; when the passions relax their hold, then, as Sophocles says, we are freed from the grasp not of one mad master only, but of many.”
- 002
„for he who is of a calm and happy nature will hardly feel the pressure of age, but to him who is of an opposite disposition youth and age are equally a burden.”
- 003
„to the good poor man old age cannot be a light burden, nor can a bad rich man ever have peace with himself”
- 004
„Hope,' he says, 'cherishes the soul of him who lives in justice and holiness, and is the nurse of his age and the companion of his journey;— hope which is mightiest to sway the restless soul of man.”
- 005
„the injuring of another can be in no case just”
- 006
„there is many a one who can ask and cannot answer.”
- 007
„different forms of government make laws democratical, aristocratical, tyrannical, with a view to their several interests; and these laws, which are made by them for their own interests, are the justice which they deliver to their subjects, and him who transgresses them they punish as a breaker of the law, and unjust.”
- 008
„Is the physician, taken in that strict sense of which you are speaking, a healer of the sick or a maker of money?”
- 009
„Then medicine does not consider the interest of medicine, but the interest of the body?”
- 010
„Nor does the art of horsemanship consider the interests of the art of horsemanship, but the interests of the horse; neither do any other arts care for themselves, for they have no needs; they care only for that which is the subject of their art?”
- 011
„the arts are the superiors and rulers of their own subjects”
- 012
„no science or art considers or enjoins the interest of the stronger or superior, but only the interest of the subject and weaker”
- 013
„there is no one in any rule who, in so far as he is a ruler, considers or enjoins what is for his own interest, but always what is for the interest of his subject or suitable to his art; to that he looks, and that alone he considers in everything which he says and does.”
- 014
„injustice, when on a sufficient scale, has more strength and freedom and mastery than justice; and, as I said at first, justice is the interest of the stronger, whereas injustice is a man's own profit and interest.”
- 015
„he who refuses to rule is liable to be ruled by one who is worse than himself”
- 016
„the true ruler is not meant by nature to regard his own interest, but that of his subjects;”
- 017
„men who are evil acting at any time vigorously together, is not strictly true, for if they had been perfectly evil, they would have laid hands upon one another; but it is evident that there must have been some remnant of justice in them, which enabled them to combine; if there had not been they would have injured one another as well as their victims”
- 018
„justice is the excellence of the soul, and injustice the defect of the soul”
- 019
„No man would keep his hands off what was not his own when he could safely take what he liked out of the market”
- 020
„the highest reach of injustice is, to be deemed just when you are not”
- 021
„Parents and tutors are always telling their sons and their wards that they are to be just; but why? not for the sake of justice, but for the sake of character and reputation; in the hope of obtaining for him who is reputed just some of those offices, marriages, and the like which Glaucon has enumerated among the advantages accruing to the unjust from the reputation of justice.”
- 022
„the posterity, as they say, of the faithful and just shall survive to the third and fourth generation”
- 023
„Vice may be had in abundance without trouble; the way is smooth and her dwelling-place is near. But before virtue the gods have set toil,”
— Hesiod - 024
„Can I by justice or by crooked ways of deceit ascend a loftier tower which may be a fortress to me all my days?”
— Pindar - 025
„appearance tyrannizes over truth and is lord of happiness”
- 026
„we should not have been on the watch to keep one another from doing wrong, but every one would have been his own watchman”
- 027
„A State, I said, arises, as I conceive, out of the needs of mankind; no one is self-sufficing, but all of us have many wants.”
- 028
„the true creator is necessity, who is the mother of our invention.”
- 029
„there are diversities of natures among us which are adapted to different occupations”
- 030
„a work is spoilt when not done at the right time”
- 031
„For business is not disposed to wait until the doer of the business is at leisure; but the doer must follow up what he is doing, and make the business his first object.”
- 032
„all things are produced more plentifully and easily and of a better quality when one man does one thing which is natural to him and does it at the right time, and leaves other things”
- 033
„No tools will make a man a skilled workman, or master of defence, nor be of any use to him who has not learned how to handle them, and has never bestowed any attention upon them.”
- 034
„the beginning is the most important part of any work, especially in the case of a young and tender thing; for that is the time at which the character is being formed and the desired impression is more readily taken.”
- 035
„The doings of Cronus, and the sufferings which in turn his son inflicted upon him, even if they were true, ought certainly not to be lightly told to young and thoughtless persons; if possible, they had better be buried in silence. But if there is an absolute necessity for their mention, a chosen few might hear them in a mystery”
- 036
„we would tell them that quarrelling is unholy, and that never up to this time has there been any quarrel between citizens; this is what old men and old women should begin by telling children;”
- 037
„For a young person cannot judge what is allegorical and what is literal; anything that he receives into his mind at that age is likely to become indelible and unalterable; and therefore it is most important that the tales which the young first hear should be models of virtuous thoughts.”
- 038
„God is always to be represented as he truly is, whatever be the sort of poetry, epic, lyric or tragic, in which the representation is given.”
about what should - 039
„Then God, if he be good, is not the author of all things, as the many assert, but he is the cause of a few things only, and not of most things that occur to men. For few are the goods of human life, and many are the evils, and the good is to be attributed to God alone; of the evils the causes are to be sought elsewhere, and not in him.”
- 040
„God plants guilt among men when he desires utterly to destroy a house.”
- 041
„And what do you think of a second principle? Shall I ask you whether God is a magician, and of a nature to appear insidiously now in one shape, and now in another—sometimes himself changing and passing into many forms, sometimes deceiving us with the semblance of such transformations; or is he one and the same immutably fixed in his own proper image?”
- 042
„all composite things—furniture, houses, garments: when good and well made, they are least altered by time and circumstances.”
- 043
„And will he then change himself for the better and fairer, or for the worse and more unsightly? If he change at all he can only change for the worse, for we cannot suppose him to be deficient either in virtue or beauty. Very true, Adeimantus; but then, would any one, whether God or man, desire to make himself worse? Impossible. Then it is impossible that God should ever be willing to change; being, as is supposed, the fairest and best that is conceivable, every God remains absolutely and for ever in his own form.”
- 044
„deception, or being deceived or uninformed about the highest realities in the highest part of themselves, which is the soul, and in that part of them to have and to hold the lie, is what mankind least like;—that, I say, is what they utterly detest.”
- 045
„ignorance in the soul of him who is deceived may be called the true lie”
- 046
„we do not know the truth about ancient times, we make falsehood as much like truth as we can, and so turn it to account.”
- 047
„Then is God perfectly simple and true both in word and deed; he changes not; he deceives not, either by sign or word, by dream or waking vision.”
- 048
„our principles of theology—some tales are to be told, and others are not to be told to our disciples from their youth upwards, if we mean them to honour the gods and their parents, and to value friendship with one another”
- 049
„Then if any one at all is to have the privilege of lying, the rulers of the State should be the persons; and they, in their dealings either with enemies or with their own citizens, may be allowed to lie for the public good”
- 050
„We will not have them trying to persuade our youth that the gods are the authors of evil, and that heroes are no better than men”
- 051
„one man can only do one thing well, and not many; and that if he attempt many, he will altogether fail of gaining much reputation in any”
- 052
„the same person will hardly be able to play a serious part in life, and at the same time to be an imitator and imitate many other parts as well; for even when two species of imitation are nearly allied, the same persons cannot succeed in both, as, for example, the writers of tragedy and comedy”
- 053
„if they imitate at all, they should imitate from youth upward only those characters which are suitable to their profession—the courageous, temperate, holy, free, and the like; but they should not depict or be skilful at imitating any kind of illiberality or baseness, lest from imitation they should come to be what they imitate. Did you never observe how imitations, beginning in early youth and continuing far into life, at length grow into habits and become a second nature, affecting body, voice, and mind?”
- 054
„beauty of style and harmony and grace and good rhythm depend on simplicity, —I mean the true simplicity of a rightly and nobly ordered mind and character, not that other simplicity which is only an euphemism for folly”
- 055
„ugliness and discord and inharmonious motion are nearly allied to ill words and ill nature, as grace and harmony are the twin sisters of goodness and virtue and bear their likeness.”
- 056
„musical training is a more potent instrument than any other, because rhythm and harmony find their way into the inward places of the soul, on which they mightily fasten, imparting grace, and making the soul of him who is rightly educated graceful, or of him who is ill-educated ungraceful;”
- 057
„when a beautiful soul harmonizes with a beautiful form, and the two are cast in one mould, that will be the fairest of sights to him who has an eye to see it”
- 058
„pleasure deprives a man of the use of his faculties quite as much as pain.”
- 059
„Gymnastic as well as music should begin in early years; the training in it should be careful and should continue through life.”
- 060
„not that the good body by any bodily excellence improves the soul, but, on the contrary, that the good soul, by her own excellence, improves the body as far as this may be possible.”
- 061
„the mind when adequately trained, we shall be right in handing over the more particular care of the body”
- 062
„Whereas simplicity in music was the parent of temperance in the soul; and simplicity in gymnastic of health in the body.”
- 063
„For the body, as I conceive, is not the instrument with which they cure the body; in that case we could not allow them ever to be or to have been sickly; but they cure the body with the mind, and the mind which has become and is sick can cure nothing.”
- 064
„But with the judge it is otherwise; since he governs mind by mind”
- 065
„in youth good men often appear to be simple, and are easily practised upon by the dishonest, because they have no examples of what evil is in their own souls”
- 066
„the judge should not be young; he should have learned to know evil, not from his own soul, but from late and long observation of the nature of evil in others: knowledge should be his guide, not personal experience”
- 067
„for he is good who has a good soul. But the cunning and suspicious nature of which we spoke,—he who has committed many crimes, and fancies himself to be a master in wickedness, when he is amongst his fellows, is wonderful in the precautions which he takes, because he judges of them by himself: but when he gets into the company of men of virtue, who have the experience of age, he appears to be a fool again, owing to his unseasonable suspicions; he cannot recognise an honest man, because he has no pattern of honesty in himself; at the same time, as the bad are more numerous than the good, and he meets with them oftener, he thinks himself, and is by others thought to be, rather wise than foolish.”
- 068
„vice cannot know virtue too, but a virtuous nature, educated by time, will acquire a knowledge both of virtue and vice: the virtuous, and not the vicious, man has wisdom”
- 069
„And he who mingles music with gymnastic in the fairest proportions, and best attempers them to the soul, may be rightly called the true musician and harmonist in a far higher sense than the tuner of the strings.”
- 070
„the elder must rule the younger”
- 071
„A resolution may go out of a man's mind either with his will or against his will; with his will when he gets rid of a falsehood and learns better, against his will whenever he is deprived of a truth.”
- 072
„men are unwillingly deprived of good, and willingly of evil? Is not to have lost the truth an evil, and to possess the truth a good? and you would agree that to conceive things as they are is to possess the truth?”
- 073
„some men are changed by persuasion and that others forget; argument steals away the hearts of one class, and time of the other; and this I call theft”
- 074
„Those again who are forced, are those whom the violence of some pain or grief compels to change their opinion.”
- 075
„enchanted are those who change their minds either under the softer influence of pleasure, or the sterner influence of fear”
- 076
„And there should also be toils and pains and conflicts prescribed for them, in which they will be made to give further proof of the same qualities.”
is not - 077
„And he who at every age, as boy and youth and in mature life, has come out of the trial victorious and pure, shall be appointed a ruler and guardian of the State; he shall be honoured in life and death, and shall receive sepulture and other memorials of honour, the greatest that we have to give. But him who fails, we must reject”
- 078
„as all are of the same original stock, a golden parent will sometimes have a silver son, or a silver parent a golden son.”
- 079
„a really good education furnish the best safeguard”
- 080
„Then now let us consider what will be their way of life, if they are to realize our idea of them. In the first place, none of them should have any property of his own beyond what is absolutely necessary;”
is not this communist thinking? - 081
„we are fashioning the happy State, not piecemeal, or with a view of making a few happy citizens, but as a whole;”
- 082
„we must consider whether in appointing our guardians we would look to their greatest happiness individually, or whether this principle of happiness does not rather reside in the State as a whole.”
- 083
„under the influence either of poverty or of wealth, workmen and their work are equally liable to degenerate”
- 084
„Wealth, I said, and poverty; the one is the parent of luxury and indolence, and the other of meanness and viciousness, and both of discontent.”
- 085
„a single boxer who was perfect in his art would easily be a match for two stout and well-to-do gentlemen who were not boxers”
- 086
„any city, however small, is in fact divided into two, one the city of the poor, the other of the rich; these are at war with one another; and in either there are many smaller divisions, and you would be altogether beside the mark if you treated them all as a single State. But if you deal with them as many, and give the wealth or power or persons of the one to the others, you will always have a great many friends and not many enemies”
- 087
„in the case of the citizens generally, each individual should be put to the use for which nature intended him, one to one work, and then every man would do his own business, and be one and not many; and so the whole city would be one and not many.”
- 088
„good nurture and education implant good constitutions, and these good constitutions taking root in a good education improve more and more, and this improvement affects the breed in man as in other animals.”
- 089
„music and gymnastic be preserved in their original form, and no innovation made. They must do their utmost to maintain them intact.”
so Plato was the - 090
„for any musical innovation is full of danger to the whole State, and ought to be prohibited. So Damon tells me, and I can quite believe him;—he says that when modes of music change, the fundamental laws of the State always change with them.”
- 091
„our youth should be trained from the first in a stricter system, for if amusements become lawless, and the youths themselves become lawless, they can never grow up into well-conducted and virtuous citizens.”
- 092
„the direction in which education starts a man, will determine his future life”
- 093
„When a man cannot measure, and a great many others who cannot measure declare that he is four cubits high, can he help believing what they say?”
- 094
„good counsel is clearly a kind of knowledge, for not by ignorance, but by knowledge, do men counsel well”
- 095
„I mean that courage is a kind of salvation. Salvation of what? Of the opinion respecting things to be feared, what they are and of what nature, which the law implants through education; and I mean by the words 'under all circumstances' to intimate that in pleasure or in pain, or under the influence of desire or fear, a man preserves, and does not lose this opinion”
- 096
„universal saving power of true opinion in conformity with law about real and false dangers I call and maintain to be courage”
- 097
„Temperance, I replied, is the ordering or controlling of certain pleasures and desires; this is curiously enough implied in the saying of 'a man being his own master;”
- 098
„in the human soul there is a better and also a worse principle; and when the better has the worse under control, then a man is said to be master of himself; and this is a term of praise: but when, owing to evil education or association, the better principle, which is also the smaller, is overwhelmed by the greater mass of the worse—in this case he is blamed and is called the slave of self and unprincipled.”
- 099
„the manifold and complex pleasures and desires and pains are generally found in children and women and servants, and in the freemen so called who are of the lowest and more numerous class.”
maybe children’s can’t become - 100
„masters of themselves”
but women can - 101
„the simple and moderate desires which follow reason, and are under the guidance of mind and true opinion, are to be found only in a few, and those the best born and best educated”
- 102
„meaner desires of the many are held down by the virtuous desires and wisdom of the few”
- 103
„temperance was a sort of harmony”
- 104
„temperance is unlike courage and wisdom, each of which resides in a part only, the one making the State wise and the other valiant; not so temperance, which extends to the whole, and runs through all the notes of the scale, and produces a harmony of the weaker and the stronger and the middle class, whether you suppose them to be stronger or weaker in wisdom or power or numbers or wealth, or anything else. Most truly then may we deem temperance to be the agreement of the naturally superior and inferior, as to the right to rule of either, both in states and individuals.”
- 105
„Like people who go about looking for what they have in their hands—that was the way with us—we looked not at what we were seeking, but at what was far off in the distance; and therefore, I suppose, we missed her.”
- 106
„to do one's own business in a certain way may be assumed to be justice”
- 107
„a man may neither take what is another's, nor be deprived of what is his own”
- 108
„when the cobbler or any other man whom nature designed to be a trader, having his heart lifted up by wealth or strength or the number of his followers, or any like advantage, attempts to force his way into the class of warriors, or a warrior into that of legislators and guardians, for which he is unfitted, and either to take the implements or the duties of the other; or when one man is trader, legislator, and warrior all in one, then I think you will agree with me in saying that this interchange and this meddling of one with another is the ruin of the State.”
- 109
„the greatest degree of evil-doing to one's own city would be termed by you injustice?”
- 110
„in each of us there are the same principles and habits which there are in the State; and that from the individual they pass into the State”
- 111
„The same thing clearly cannot act or be acted upon in the same part or in relation to the same thing at the same time, in contrary ways; and therefore whenever this contradiction occurs in things apparently the same, we know that they are really not the same, but different.”
- 112
„the soul of him who desires is seeking after the object of his desire; or that he is drawing to himself the thing which he wishes to possess: or again, when a person wants anything to be given him, his mind, longing for the realization of his desire, intimates his wish to have it by a nod of assent, as if he had been asked a question”
- 113
„“warm or cold, or much or little, or, in a word, drink of any particular sort: but if the thirst be accompanied by heat, then the desire is of cold drink; or, if accompanied by cold, then of warm drink; or, if the thirst be excessive, then the drink which is desired will be excessive; or, if not great, the quantity of drink will also be small: but thirst pure and simple will desire drink pure and simple, which is the natural satisfaction of thirst, as food is of hunger”
- 114
„no man desires drink only, but good drink, or food only, but good food; for good is the universal object of desire, and thirst being a desire, will necessarily be thirst after good drink; and the same is true of every other desire”
- 115
„The object of science is knowledge (assuming that to be the true definition), but the object of a particular science is a particular kind of knowledge; I mean, for example, that the science of house-building is a kind of knowledge which is defined and distinguished from other kinds and is therefore termed architecture.”
- 116
„if one term of a relation is taken alone, the other is taken alone; if one term is qualified, the other is also qualified.”
- 117
„when the term science is no longer used absolutely, but has a qualified object which in this case is the nature of health and disease, it becomes defined, and is hence called not merely science, but the science of medicine.”
- 118
„a certain kind of thirst is relative to a certain kind of drink; but thirst taken alone is neither of much nor little, nor of good nor bad, nor of any particular kind of drink, but of drink only”
- 119
„No more than you can say that the hands of the archer push and pull the bow at the same time, but what you say is that one hand pushes and the other pulls.”
- 120
„Would you not say that there was something in the soul bidding a man to drink, and something else forbidding him, which is other and stronger than the principle which bids him? I should say so. And the forbidding principle is derived from reason, and that which bids and attracts proceeds from passion and disease?”
- 121
„man's desires violently prevail over his reason”
- 122
„the individual is wise in the same way, and in virtue of the same quality which makes the State wise”
- 123
„he is temperate who has these same elements in friendly harmony, in whom the one ruling principle of reason, and the two subject ones of spirit and desire are equally agreed that reason ought to rule, and do not rebel”
- 124
„in reality justice was such as we were describing, being concerned however, not with the outward man, but with the inward, which is the true self and concernment of man: for the just man does not permit the several elements within him to interfere with one another, or any of them to do the work of others,—he sets in order his own inner life, and is his own master and his own law, and at peace with himself; and when he has bound together the three principles within him, which may be compared to the higher, lower, and middle notes of the scale, and the intermediate intervals—when he has bound all these together, and is no longer many, but has become one entirely temperate and perfectly adjusted nature, then he proceeds to act, if he has to act, whether in a matter of property, or in the treatment of the body, or in some affair of politics or private business; always thinking and calling that which preserves and cooperates with this harmonious condition, just and good action, and the knowledge which presides over it, wisdom, and that which at any time impairs this condition, he will call unjust action, and the opinion which presides over it ignorance.”
- 125
„Must not injustice be a strife which arises among the three principles—a meddlesomeness, and interference, and rising up of a part of the soul against the whole, an assertion of unlawful authority, which is made by a rebellious subject against a true prince, of whom he is the natural vassal,—what is all this confusion and delusion but injustice, and intemperance and cowardice and ignorance, and every form of vice?”
- 126
„that which is healthy causes health, and that which is unhealthy causes disease.”
- 127
„just actions cause justice, and unjust actions cause injustice”
- 128
„the creation of health is the institution of a natural order and government of one by another in the parts of the body; and the creation of disease is the production of a state of things at variance with this natural order”
- 129
„virtue is the health and beauty and well-being of the soul, and vice the disease and weakness and deformity of the same”
- 130
„good practices lead to virtue, and evil practices to vice”
- 131
„discourse should have a limit”
- 132
„to declare the truth about matters of high interest which a man honours and loves among wise men who love him need occasion no fear or faltering in his mind;”
- 133
„to be an involuntary homicide is a less crime than to be a deceiver about beauty or goodness or justice in the matter of laws”
- 134
„if women are to have the same duties as men, they must have the same nurture and education”
- 135
„to let all things be uncovered was far better than to cover them up”
- 136
„when a man is out of his depth, whether he has fallen into a little swimming bath or into mid ocean, he has to swim all the same”
- 137
„glorious is the power of the art of contradiction”
- 138
„one man will acquire a thing easily, another with difficulty; a little learning will lead the one to discover a great deal; whereas the other, after much study and application, no sooner learns than he forgets; (…) the one has a body which is a good servant to his mind, while the body of the other is a hindrance to him”
- 139
„there is no special faculty of administration in a state which a woman has because she is a woman, or which a man has by virtue of his sex, but the gifts of nature are alike diffused in both; all the pursuits of men are the pursuits of women also, but in all of them a woman is inferior to a man.”
- 140
„Men and women alike possess the qualities which make a guardian; they differ only in their comparative strength or weakness.”
- 141
„the useful is the noble and the hurtful is the base”
- 142
„the next thing will be to make matrimony sacred in the highest degree, and what is most beneficial will be deemed sacred”
- 143
„the best of either sex should be united with the best as often, and the inferior with the inferior, as seldom as possible;”
- 144
„The proper officers will take the offspring of the good parents to the pen or fold, and there they will deposit them with certain nurses who dwell in a separate quarter; but the offspring of the inferior, or of the better when they chance to be deformed, will be put away in some mysterious, unknown place, as they should be.”
isn’t there sad that the nazy eugenia was inspired from - 145
„what can be more ridiculous than for them to utter the names of family ties with the lips only and not to act in the spirit of them”
- 146
„the soldier who leaves his rank or throws away his arms, or is guilty of any other act of cowardice, should be degraded into the rank of a husbandman or artisan.”
- 147
„he who allows himself to be taken prisoner may as well be made a present of to his enemies; he is their lawful prey, and let them do what they like with him.”
- 148
„the brave man is to have more wives than others”
- 149
„When a man dies gloriously in war shall we not say, in the first place, that he is of the golden race”
- 150
„there is a difference in the names 'discord' and 'war,' and I imagine that there is also a difference in their natures; the one is expressive of what is internal and domestic, the other of what is external and foreign; and the first of the two is termed discord, and only the second, war.”
- 151
„There might be reason in the conqueror depriving the conquered of their harvest, but still they would have the idea of peace in their hearts and would not mean to go on fighting for ever.”
why a man like Napoleon didn’t - 152
„let the change, if possible, be of one thing only, or, if not, of two; at any rate, let the changes be as few and slight as possible.”
here again Plato confirm to - 153
„Until philosophers are kings, or the kings and princes of this world have the spirit and power of philosophy, and political greatness and wisdom meet in one, and those commoner natures who pursue either to the exclusion of the other are compelled to stand aside, cities will never have rest from their evils,—nor the human race”
- 154
„There will be discovered to be some natures who ought to study philosophy and to be leaders in the State; and others who are not born to be philosophers, and are meant to be followers rather than leaders.”
- 155
„a lover, if he is worthy of the name, ought to show his love, not to some one part of that which he loves, but to the whole.”
- 156
„he who desires any class of goods, desire the whole class”
- 157
„he who, having a sense of beautiful things has no sense of absolute beauty, or who, if another lead him to a knowledge of that beauty is unable to follow—of such an one I ask, Is he awake or in a dream only? Reflect: is not the dreamer, sleeping or waking, one who likens dissimilar things, who puts the copy in the place of the real object?”
- 158
„But take the case of the other, who recognises the existence of absolute beauty and is able to distinguish the idea from the objects which participate in the idea, neither putting the objects in the place of the idea nor the idea in the place of the objects—is he a dreamer, or is he awake?”
- 159
„the mind of the one who knows has knowledge, and that the mind of the other, who opines only, has opinion”
- 160
„Does he who has knowledge know something or nothing?”
- 161
„Being is the sphere or subject-matter of knowledge, and knowledge is to know the nature of being”
- 162
„opinion appears to you to be darker than knowledge, but lighter than ignorance”
- 163
„many ideas which the multitude entertain about the beautiful and about all other things are tossing about in some region which is half-way between pure being and pure not-being”
- 164
„those who see the absolute and eternal and immutable may be said to know, and not to have opinion only”
- 165
„no man should be angry at what is true”
- 166
„those who love the truth in each thing are to be called lovers of wisdom and not lovers of opinion”
- 167
„philosophers only are able to grasp the eternal and unchangeable, and those who wander in the region of the many and variable are not philosophers”
- 168
„the nature of the philosopher has to be ascertained”
- 169
„philosophical minds always love knowledge of a sort which shows them the eternal nature not varying from generation and corruption Agreed And further, I said, let us agree that they are lovers of all true being; there is no part whether greater or less, or more or less honourable, which they are willing to renounce; as we said before of the lover and the man of ambition.”
- 170
„Truthfulness: they will never intentionally receive into their mind falsehood, which is their detestation, and they will love the truth.”
- 171
„true lover of learning then must from his earliest youth, as far as in him lies, desire all truth”
- 172
„he whose desires are strong in one direction will have them weaker in others; they will be like a stream which has been drawn off into another channel. True He whose desires are drawn towards knowledge in every form will be absorbed in the pleasures of the soul, and will hardly feel bodily pleasure— I mean, if he be a true philosopher and not a sham one. That is most certain. Such an one is sure to be temperate and the reverse of covetous; for the motives which make another man desirous of having and spending, have no place in his character. (…) There should be no secret corner of illiberality; nothing can be more antagonistic than meanness to a soul which is ever longing after the whole of things both divine and human.”
- 173
„how can he who has magnificence of mind and is the spectator of all time and all existence, think much of human life?”
- 174
„can he who is harmoniously constituted, who is not covetous or mean, or a boaster, or a coward—can he, I say, ever be unjust or hard in his dealings?”
- 175
„whether a man is just and gentle, or rude and unsociable; these are the signs which distinguish even in youth the philosophical nature from the unphilosophical. True. There is another point which should be remarked. What point? Whether he has or has not a pleasure in learning; for no one will love that which gives him pain, and in which after much toil he makes little progress.”
- 176
„The ruler who is good for anything ought not to beg his subjects to be ruled by him”
- 177
„the corruption of the majority is also unavoidable”
- 178
„the true lover of knowledge is always striving after being—that is his nature; he will not rest in the multiplicity of individuals which is an appearance only, but will go on—the keen edge will not be blunted, nor the force of his desire abate until he have attained the knowledge of the true nature of every essence by a sympathetic and kindred power in the soul, and by that power drawing near and mingling and becoming incorporate with very being, having begotten mind and truth, he will have knowledge and will live and grow truly, and then, and not till then, will he cease from his travail.”
- 179
„when truth is the captain, we cannot suspect any evil of the band which he leads (…) Justice and health of mind will be of the company, and temperance will follow after”
- 180
„if you leave words and look at facts, the persons who are thus described are some of them manifestly useless, and the greater number utterly depraved”
- 181
„all the qualities which we required in a philosopher, is a rare plant which is seldom seen among men”
- 182
„Grasp the truth as a whole, I said, and in the right way; you will then have no difficulty in apprehending the preceding remarks, and they will no longer appear strange to you.”
- 183
„all germs or seeds, whether vegetable or animal, when they fail to meet with proper nutriment or climate or soil, in proportion to their vigour, are all the more sensitive to the want of a suitable environment, for evil is a greater enemy to what is good than to what is not.”
- 184
„the finest natures, when under alien conditions, receive more injury than the inferior, because the contrast is greater.”
- 185
„the most gifted minds, when they are ill-educated, become pre-eminently bad”
- 186
„Will any private training enable him to stand firm against the overwhelming flood of popular opinion? or will he be carried away by the stream? Will he not have the notions of good and evil which the public in general have—he will do as they do, and as they are, such will he be?”
- 187
„there neither is, nor has been, nor is ever likely to be, any different type of character which has had no other training in virtue but that which is supplied by public opinion”
- 188
„all those mercenary individuals, whom the many call Sophists and whom they deem to be their adversaries, do, in fact, teach nothing but the opinion of the many, that is to say, the opinions of their assemblies; and this is their wisdom.”
- 189
„when a man consorts with the many, and exhibits to them his poem or other work of art or the service which he has done the State, making them his judges when he is not obliged, the so-called necessity of Diomede will oblige him to produce whatever they praise.”
- 190
„the world cannot possibly be a philosopher”
- 191
„when persons who are unworthy of education approach philosophy and make an alliance with her who is in a rank above them what sort of ideas and opinions are likely to be generated? Will they not be sophisms captivating to the ear, having nothing in them genuine, or worthy of or akin to true wisdom?”
- 192
„the worthy disciples of philosophy will be but a small remnant: perchance some noble and well-educated person, detained by exile in her service, who in the absence of corrupting influences remains devoted to her; or some lofty soul born in a mean city, the politics of which he contemns and neglects; and there may be a gifted few who leave the arts, which they justly despise, and come to her;—or peradventure there are some who are restrained by our friend Theages' bridle; for everything in the life of Theages conspired to divert him from philosophy; but ill-health kept him away from politics. My own case of the internal sign is hardly worth mentioning, for rarely, if ever, has such a monitor been given to any other man. Those who belong to this small class have tasted how sweet and blessed a possession philosophy is, and have also seen enough of the madness of the multitude; and they know that no politician is honest, nor is there any champion of justice at whose side they may fight and be saved. Such an one may be compared to a man who has fallen among wild beasts—he will not join in the wickedness of his fellows, but neither is he able singly to resist all their fierce natures, and therefore seeing that he would be of no use to the State or to his friends, and reflecting that he would have to throw away his life without doing any good either to himself or others, he holds his peace, and goes his own way. He is like one who, in the storm of dust and sleet which the driving wind hurries along, retires under the shelter of a wall; and seeing the rest of mankind full of wickedness, he is content, if only he can live his own life and be pure from evil or unrighteousness, and depart in peace and good-will, with bright hopes.”
- 193
„in a State which is suitable to him, he will have a larger growth and be the saviour of his country, as well as of himself”
- 194
„The question how the study of philosophy may be so ordered as not to be the ruin of the State: All great attempts are attended with risk; 'hard is the good,' as men say.”
- 195
„In childhood and youth their study, and what philosophy they learn, should be suited to their tender years: during this period while they are growing up towards manhood, the chief and special care should be given to their bodies that they may have them to use in the service of philosophy; as life advances and the intellect begins to mature, let them increase the gymnastics of the soul; but when the strength of our citizens fails and is past civil and military duties, then let them range at will and engage in no serious labour, as we intend them to live happily here, and to crown this life with a similar happiness in another.”
- 196
„do not attack the multitude: they will change their minds, if, not in an aggressive spirit, but gently and with the view of soothing them and removing their dislike of over-education, you show them your philosophers as they really are and describe as you were just now doing their character and profession, and then mankind will see that he of whom you are speaking is not such as they supposed—if they view him in this new light, they will surely change their notion of him, and answer in another strain. Who can be at enmity with one who loves them, who that is himself gentle and free from envy will be jealous of one in whom there is no jealousy? Nay, let me answer for you, that in a few this harsh temper may be found but not in the majority of mankind.”
is - 197
„whose mind is fixed upon true being, has surely no time to look down upon the affairs of earth, or to be filled with malice and envy, contending against men;”
- 198
„the philosopher holding converse with the divine order, becomes orderly and divine, as far as the nature of man allows; but like every one else, he will suffer from detraction.”
- 199
„no State can be happy which is not designed by artists who imitate the heavenly pattern”
- 200
„And when they are filling in the work, as I conceive, they will often turn their eyes upwards and downwards: I mean that they will first look at absolute justice and beauty and temperance, and again at the human copy; and will mingle and temper the various elements of life into the image of a man; and this they will conceive according to that other image, which, when existing among men, Homer calls the form and likeness of God.”
here is described Jesus - 201
„until philosophers bear rule, States and individuals will have no rest from evil”
- 202
„let there be one man who has a city obedient to his will, and he might bring into existence the ideal polity about which the world is so incredulous”
— Hitler - 203
„idea of good is the highest knowledge, and that all other things become useful and advantageous only by their use of this”
- 204
„Do you think that the possession of all other things is of any value if we do not possess the good? or the knowledge of all other things if we have no knowledge of beauty and goodness?”
- 205
„there are bad pleasures as well as good”
- 206
„has any one a right to say positively what he does not know?”
- 207
„all mere opinions are bad, and the best of them blind”
- 208
„the ideas are known but not seen”
- 209
„the soul is like the eye: when resting upon that on which truth and being shine, the soul perceives and understands, and is radiant with intelligence; but when turned towards the twilight of becoming and perishing, then she has opinion only, and goes blinking about, and is first of one opinion and then of another, and seems to have no intelligence. Just so. Now, that which imparts truth to the known and the power of knowing to the knower is what I would have you term the idea of good, and this you will deem to be the cause of science, and of truth in so far as the latter becomes the subject of knowledge; beautiful too, as are both truth and knowledge, you will be right in esteeming this other nature as more beautiful than either; and, as in the previous instance, light and sight may be truly said to be like the sun, and yet not to be the sun, so in this other sphere, science and truth may be deemed to be like the good, but not the good; the good has a place of honour yet higher.”
- 210
„the sun is not only the author of visibility in all visible things, but of generation and nourishment and growth, though he himself is not generation. Certainly. In like manner the good may be said to be not only the author of knowledge to all things known, but of their being and essence, and yet the good is not essence, but far exceeds essence in dignity and power.”
- 211
„there are two ruling powers, and that one of them is set over the intellectual world, the other over the visible.”
real particles and virtual ones? - 212
„knowledge and being, which the science of dialectic contemplates, are clearer than the notions of the arts, as they are termed, which proceed from hypotheses only: these are also contemplated by the understanding, and not by the senses: yet, because they start from hypotheses and do not ascend to a principle, those who contemplate them appear to you not to exercise the higher reason upon them, although when a first principle is added to them they are cognizable by the higher reason.”
- 213
„let there be four faculties in the soul—reason answering to the highest, understanding to the second, faith (or conviction) to the third, and perception of shadows to the last”
- 214
„in the world of knowledge the idea of good appears last of all, and is seen only with an effort; and, when seen, is also inferred to be the universal author of all things beautiful and right, parent of light and of the lord of light in this visible world, and the immediate source of reason and truth in the intellectual;”
- 215
„the bewilderments of the eyes are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye; and he who remembers this when he sees any one whose vision is perplexed and weak, will not be too ready to laugh; he will first ask whether that soul of man has come out of the brighter life, and is unable to see because unaccustomed to the dark, or having turned from darkness to the day is dazzled by excess of light. And he will count the one happy in his condition and state of being, and he will pity the other; or, if he have a mind to laugh at the soul which comes from below into the light, there will be more reason in this than in the laugh which greets him who returns from above out of the light into the den.”
- 216
„the power and capacity of learning exists in the soul already; and that just as the eye was unable to turn from darkness to light without the whole body, so too the instrument of knowledge can only by the movement of the whole soul be turned from the world of becoming into that of being, and learn by degrees to endure the sight of being, and of the brightest and best of being, or in other words, of the good.”
- 217
„neither the uneducated and uninformed of the truth, nor yet those who never make an end of their education, will be able ministers of State;”
- 218
„Being self-taught, they cannot be expected to show any gratitude for a culture which they have never received.”
- 219
„men fight with one another about shadows only and are distracted in the struggle for power, which in their eyes is a great good. Whereas the truth is that the State in which the rulers are most reluctant to govern is always the best and most quietly governed, and the State in which they are most eager, the worst.”
- 220
„the only life which looks down upon the life of political ambition is that of true philosophy.”
- 221
„a warrior should have a knowledge of arithmetic”
- 222
„the thinking mind, intending to light up the chaos, was compelled to reverse the process, and look at small and great as separate and not confused”
- 223
„if simple unity could be adequately perceived by the sight or by any other sense, then, as we were saying in the case of the finger, there would be nothing to attract towards being; but when there is some contradiction always present, and one is the reverse of one and involves the conception of plurality, then thought begins to be aroused within us, and the soul perplexed and wanting to arrive at a decision asks 'What is absolute unity?' This is the way in which the study of the one has a power of drawing and converting the mind to the contemplation of true being.”
- 224
„those who have a natural talent for calculation are generally quick at every other kind of knowledge”
- 225
„astronomy compels the soul to look upwards and leads us from this world to another.”
- 226
„that knowledge only which is of being and of the unseen can make the soul look upwards”
- 227
„when a person starts on the discovery of the absolute by the light of reason only, and without any assistance of sense, and perseveres until by pure intelligence he arrives at the perception of the absolute good, he at last finds himself at the end of the intellectual world, as in the case of sight at the end of the visible.”
- 228
„At any rate, we are satisfied, as before, to have four divisions; two for intellect and two for opinion, and to call the first division science, the second understanding, the third belief, and the fourth perception of shadows, opinion being concerned with becoming, and intellect with being; and so to make a proportion:— As being is to becoming, so is pure intellect to opinion. And as intellect is to opinion, so is science to belief, and understanding to the perception of shadows.”
- 229
„the mind more often faints from the severity of study than from the severity of gymnastics: the toil is more entirely the mind's own, and is not shared with the body.”
- 230
„youth is the time for any extraordinary toil”
- 231
„a freeman ought not to be a slave in the acquisition of knowledge of any kind. Bodily exercise, when compulsory, does no harm to the body; but knowledge which is acquired under compulsion obtains no hold on the mind.”
- 232
„There is a danger lest they should taste the dear delight too early; for youngsters, as you may have observed, when they first get the taste in their mouths, argue for amusement, and are always contradicting and refuting others in imitation of those who refute them; like puppy-dogs, they rejoice in pulling and tearing at all who come near them.”
- 233
„the States are as the men are; they grow out of human characters”
- 234
„A government which is united, however small, cannot be moved.”
- 235
„In plants that grow in the earth, as well as in animals that move on the earth's surface, fertility and sterility of soul and body occur when the circumferences of the circles of each are completed, which in short-lived existences pass over a short space, and in long-lived ones over a long space. But to the knowledge of human fecundity and sterility all the wisdom and education of your rulers will not attain; the laws which regulate them will not be discovered by an intelligence which is alloyed with sense, but will escape them, and they will bring children into the world when they ought not.”
- 236
„The accumulation of gold in the treasury of private individuals is the ruin of timocracy;”
- 237
„one, seeing another grow rich, seeks to rival him, and thus the great mass of the citizens become lovers of money.”
- 238
„when riches and virtue are placed together in the scales of the balance, the one always rises as the other falls”
- 239
„what would happen if pilots were to be chosen according to their property, and a poor man were refused permission to steer, even though he were a better pilot?”
- 240
„The inevitable division: such a State is not one, but two States, the one of poor, the other of rich men; and they are living on the same spot and always conspiring against one another.”
- 241
„there is none so speedy or so sure as the conversion of the ambitious youth into the avaricious one”
- 242
„The man, then, will be at war with himself; he will be two men, and not one; but, in general, his better desires will be found to prevail over his inferior ones.”
- 243
„The rulers, being aware that their power rests upon their wealth, refuse to curtail by law the extravagance of the spendthrift youth because they gain by their ruin; they take interest from them and buy up their estates and thus increase their own wealth and importance? To be sure. There can be no doubt that the love of wealth and the spirit of moderation cannot exist together in citizens of the same state to any considerable extent; one or the other will be disregarded. That is tolerably clear. And in oligarchical States, from the general spread of carelessness and extravagance, men of good family have often been reduced to beggary? Yes, often. And still they remain in the city; there they are, ready to sting and fully armed, and some of them owe money, some have forfeited their citizenship; a third class are in both predicaments; and they hate and conspire against those who have got their property, and against everybody else, and are eager for revolution. That is true. On the other hand, the men of business, stooping as they walk, and pretending not even to see those whom they have already ruined, insert their sting—that is, their money—into some one else who is not on his guard against them, and recover the parent sum many times over multiplied into a family of children: and so they make drone and pauper to abound in the State.”
- 244
„wherever there is weakness in the State there is also likely to be illness”
- 245
„as the government is, such will be the man.”
- 246
„where freedom is, the individual is clearly able to order for himself his own life as he pleases? Clearly. Then in this kind of State there will be the greatest variety of human natures? There will. This, then, seems likely to be the fairest of States, being like an embroidered robe which is spangled with every sort of flower. And just as women and children think a variety of colours to be of all things most charming, so there are many men to whom this State, which is spangled with the manners and characters of mankind, will appear to be the fairest of States.”
- 247
„the liberty which reigns there—they have a complete assortment of constitutions; and he who has a mind to establish a State, as we have been doing, must go to a democracy as he would to a bazaar at which they sell them, and pick out the one that suits him; then, when he has made his choice, he may found his State.”
- 248
„In a democracy, many persons, although they have been sentenced to death or exile, just stay where they are and walk about the world—the gentleman parades like a hero, and nobody sees or cares”
- 249
„Are not necessary pleasures those of which we cannot get rid, and of which the satisfaction is a benefit to us? And they are rightly called so, because we are framed by nature to desire both what is beneficial and what is necessary, and cannot help it. (…) And the desires of which a man may get rid, if he takes pains from his youth upwards—of which the presence, moreover, does no good, and in some cases the reverse of good—shall we not be right in saying that all these are unnecessary?”
- 250
„after the old desires have been driven out, fresh ones spring up, which are akin to them, and because he their father does not know how to educate them, wax fierce and numerous. Yes, he said, that is apt to be the way. They draw him to his old associates, and holding secret intercourse with them, breed and multiply in him.”
- 251
„tyranny spring from democracy in the same manner as democracy from oligarchy”
- 252
„Freedom, I replied; which, as they tell you in a democracy, is the glory of the State—and that therefore in a democracy alone will the freeman of nature deign to dwell.”
- 253
„When a democracy which is thirsting for freedom has evil cup-bearers presiding over the feast, and has drunk too deeply of the strong wine of freedom, then, unless her rulers are very amenable and give a plentiful draught, she calls them to account and punishes them, and says that they are cursed oligarchs.”
- 254
„the excessive increase of anything often causes a reaction in the opposite direction”
- 255
„The excess of liberty, whether in States or individuals, seems only to pass into excess of slavery.”
- 256
„in the oligarchical State they are disqualified and driven from office, and therefore they cannot train or gather strength; whereas in a democracy they are almost the entire ruling power, and while the keener sort speak and act, the rest keep buzzing about the bema and do not suffer a word to be said on the other side; hence in democracies almost everything is managed by the drones.”
- 257
„This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears above ground he is a protector.”
- 258
„At first, in the early days of his power, he is full of smiles, and he salutes every one whom he meets;—he to be called a tyrant, who is making promises in public and also in private! liberating debtors, and distributing land to the people and his followers, and wanting to be so kind and good to every one! Of course, he said. But when he has disposed of foreign enemies by conquest or treaty, and there is nothing to fear from them, then he is always stirring up some war or other, in order that the people may require a leader.”
- 259
„Tyrants are wise by living with the wise;”
— Euripides - 260
„But we are wandering from the subject: Let us therefore return and enquire how the tyrant will maintain that fair and numerous and various and everchanging army of his. If, he said, there are sacred treasures in the city, he will confiscate and spend them; and in so far as the fortunes of attainted persons may suffice, he will be able to diminish the taxes which he would otherwise have to impose upon the people.”
- 261
„in all of us, even in good men, there is a lawless wild-beast nature, which peers out in sleep”
- 262
„a man who is deranged and not right in his mind, will fancy that he is able to rule, not only over men, but also over the gods”
- 263
„They are always either the masters or servants and never the friends of anybody; the tyrant never tastes of true freedom or friendship.”
- 264
„And is not this the sort of prison in which the tyrant will be bound—he who being by nature such as we have described, is full of all sorts of fears and lusts? His soul is dainty and greedy, and yet alone, of all men in the city, he is never allowed to go on a journey, or to see the things which other freemen desire to see, but he lives in his hole like a woman hidden in the house, and is jealous of any other citizen who goes into foreign parts and sees anything of interest.”
- 265
„there are five of them in all—they are the royal, timocratical, oligarchical, democratical, tyrannical.”
- 266
„he best and justest is also the happiest, and that this is he who is the most royal man and king over himself; and that the worst and most unjust man is also the most miserable, and that this is he who being the greatest tyrant of himself is also the greatest tyrant of his State”
- 267
„is not the passionate element wholly set on ruling and conquering and getting fame?”
- 268
„the principle of knowledge is wholly directed to the truth, and cares less than either of the others for gain or fame”
- 269
„there are three classes of men—lovers of wisdom, lovers of honour, lovers of gain”
- 270
„the money-maker will contrast the vanity of honour or of learning if they bring no money with the solid advantages of gold and silver”
- 271
„the lover of honour—what will be his opinion? Will he not think that the pleasure of riches is vulgar, while the pleasure of learning, if it brings no distinction, is all smoke and nonsense to him?”
- 272
„the philosopher sets any value on other pleasures in comparison with the pleasure of knowing the truth, and in that pursuit abiding, ever learning, not so far indeed from the heaven of pleasure? Does he not call the other pleasures necessary, under the idea that if there were no necessity for them, he would rather not have them?”
- 273
„pleasures which are approved by the lover of wisdom and reason are the truest.”
- 274
„the wise man speaks with authority when he approves of his own life”
- 275
„nothing is pleasanter than health. But then they never knew this to be the greatest of pleasures until they were ill.”
- 276
„when pleasure ceases, that sort of rest or cessation will be painful”
- 277
„the pleasures of smell, which are very great and have no antecedent pains; they come in a moment, and when they depart leave no pain behind them. (…) Let us not, then, be induced to believe that pure pleasure is the cessation of pain, or pain of pleasure.”
- 278
„they, not knowing pleasure, err in contrasting pain with the absence of pain”
- 279
„which has less of truth will also have less of essence”
- 280
„in general, those kinds of things which are in the service of the body have less of truth and essence than those which are in the service of the soul”
- 281
„Those then who know not wisdom and virtue, and are always busy with gluttony and sensuality, go down and up again as far as the mean; and in this region they move at random throughout life, but they never pass into the true upper world; thither they neither look, nor do they ever find their way, neither are they truly filled with true being, nor do they taste of pure and abiding pleasure. Like cattle, with their eyes always looking down and their heads stooping to the earth, that is, to the dining-table, they fatten and feed and breed, and, in their excessive love of these delights, they kick and butt at one another with horns and hoofs which are made of iron; and they kill one another by reason of their insatiable lust. For they fill themselves with that which is not substantial, and the part of themselves which they fill is also unsubstantial and incontinent.”
- 282
„the lovers of money and honour, when they seek their pleasures under the guidance and in the company of reason and knowledge, and pursue after and win the pleasures which wisdom shows them, will also have the truest pleasures in the highest degree which is attainable to them, inasmuch as they follow truth; and they will have the pleasures which are natural to them, if that which is best for each one is also most natural to him”
- 283
„if the good and just man be thus superior in pleasure to the evil and unjust, his superiority will be infinitely greater in propriety of life and in beauty and virtue”
- 284
„the individual is unable to control the creatures within him, but has to court them, and his great study is how to flatter them”
- 285
„He who is undetected only gets worse, whereas he who is detected and punished has the brutal part of his nature silenced and humanized;”
- 286
„all poetical imitations are ruinous to the understanding of the hearers, and that the knowledge of their true nature is the only antidote to them.”
- 287
„One who is the maker of all the works of all other workmen. What an extraordinary man! Wait a little, and there will be more reason for your saying so. For this is he who is able to make not only vessels of every kind, but plants and animals, himself and all other things—the earth and heaven, and the things which are in heaven or under the earth; he makes the gods also.”
[inventing Christian god] - 288
„the imitator, I said, is a long way off the truth, and can do all things because he lightly touches on a small part of them, and that part an image.”
- 289
„whenever any one informs us that he has found a man who knows all the arts, and all things else that anybody knows, and every single thing with a higher degree of accuracy than any other man—whoever tells us this, I think that we can only imagine him to be a simple creature who is likely to have been deceived by some wizard or actor whom he met, and whom he thought allknowing, because he himself was unable to analyse the nature of knowledge and ignorance and imitation. Most true. And so, when we hear persons saying that the tragedians, and Homer, who is at their head, know all the arts and all things human, virtue as well as vice, and divine things too, for that the good poet cannot compose well unless he knows his subject, and that he who has not this knowledge can never be a poet, we ought to consider whether here also there may not be a similar illusion. Perhaps they may have come across imitators and been deceived by them; they may not have remembered when they saw their works that these were but imitations thrice removed from the truth, and could easily be made without any knowledge of the truth, because they are appearances only and not realities? Or, after all, they may be in the right, and poets do really know the things about which they seem to the many to speak so well?”
- 290
„The real artist, who knew what he was imitating, would be interested in realities and not in imitations; and would desire to leave as memorials of himself works many and fair; and, instead of being the author of encomiums, he would prefer to be the theme of them.”
- 291
„must we not infer that all these poetical individuals, beginning with Homer, are only imitators; they copy images of virtue and the like, but the truth they never reach? The poet is like a painter who, as we have already observed, will make a likeness of a cobbler though he understands nothing of cobbling; and his picture is good enough for those who know no more than he does, and judge only by colours and figures. Quite so. In like manner the poet with his words and phrases may be said to lay on the colours of the several arts, himself understanding their nature only enough to imitate them; and other people, who are as ignorant as he is, and judge only from his words, imagine that if he speaks of cobbling, or of military tactics, or of anything else, in metre and harmony and rhythm, he speaks very well—such is the sweet influence which melody and rhythm by nature have. And I think that you must have observed again and again what a poor appearance the tales of poets make when stripped of the colours which music puts upon them, and recited in simple prose.”
- 292
„The imitator or maker of the image knows nothing of true existence; he knows appearances only.”
- 293
„Then there are three arts which are concerned with all things: one which uses, another which makes, a third which imitates them? Yes. And the excellence or beauty or truth of every structure, animate or inanimate, and of every action of man, is relative to the use for which nature or the artist has intended them. True. Then the user of them must have the greatest experience of them, and he must indicate to the maker the good or bad qualities which develop themselves in use; for example, the flute-player will tell the flute-maker which of his flutes is satisfactory to the performer; he will tell him how he ought to make them, and the other will attend to his instructions?”
- 294
„The imitative artist will be in a brilliant state of intelligence about his own creations? Nay, very much the reverse. And still he will go on imitating without knowing what makes a thing good or bad, and may be expected therefore to imitate only that which appears to be good to the ignorant multitude?”
- 295
„the imitator has no knowledge worth mentioning of what he imitates”
- 296
„the same object appears straight when looked at out of the water, and crooked when in the water; and the concave becomes convex, owing to the illusion about colours to which the sight is liable. Thus every sort of confusion is revealed within us; and this is that weakness of the human mind on which the art of conjuring and of deceiving by light and shadow and other ingenious devices imposes, having an effect upon us like magic.”
- 297
„The imitative art is an inferior who marries an inferior, and has inferior offspring”
- 298
„Imitation imitates the actions of men, whether voluntary or involuntary, on which, as they imagine, a good or bad result has ensued, and they rejoice or sorrow accordingly.”
- 299
„It will make a great difference whether he is seen or not. When he is by himself he will not mind saying or doing many things which he would be ashamed of any one hearing or seeing him do?”
- 300
„when a man is drawn in two opposite directions, to and from the same object, this, as we affirm, necessarily implies two distinct principles in him”
- 301
„to be patient under suffering is best, and that we should not give way to impatience, as there is no knowing whether such things are good or evil; and nothing is gained by impatience; also, because no human thing is of serious importance, and grief stands in the way of that which at the moment is most required.”
- 302
„the imitative poet who aims at being popular is not by nature made, nor is his art intended, to please or to affect the rational principle in the soul; but he will prefer the passionate and fitful temper, which is easily imitated”
- 303
„when in misfortune we feel a natural hunger and desire to relieve our sorrow by weeping and lamentation, and that this feeling which is kept under control in our own calamities is satisfied and delighted by the poets;—the better nature in each of us, not having been sufficiently trained by reason or habit, allows the sympathetic element to break loose because the sorrow is another's; and the spectator fancies that there can be no disgrace to himself in praising and pitying any one who comes telling him what a good man he is, and making a fuss about his troubles; he thinks that the pleasure is a gain, and why should he be supercilious and lose this and the poem too? Few persons ever reflect, as I should imagine, that from the evil of other men something of evil is communicated to themselves. And so the feeling of sorrow which has gathered strength at the sight of the misfortunes of others is with difficulty repressed in our own.”
- 304
„At all events we are well aware that poetry being such as we have described is not to be regarded seriously as attaining to the truth”
- 305
„that the corrupting and destroying element is the evil, and the saving and improving element the good”
- 306
„every thing has a good and also an evil; as ophthalmia is the evil of the eyes and disease of the whole body; as mildew is of corn, and rot of timber, or rust of copper and iron: in everything, or in almost everything, there is an inherent evil and disease”
- 307
„The vice and evil which is inherent in each is the destruction of each; and if this does not destroy them there is nothing else that will; for good certainly will not destroy them, nor again, that which is neither good nor evil.”
- 308
„the soul, or anything else if not destroyed by an internal evil, can be destroyed by an external one, is not to be affirmed by any man.”
- 309
„many and [how] great are the rewards which justice and the other virtues procure to the soul from gods and men, both in life and after death.”
- 310
„even when he is in poverty or sickness, or any other seeming misfortune, all things will in the end work together for good to him in life and death: for the gods have a care of any one whose desire is to become just and to be like God, as far as man can attain the divine likeness, by the pursuit of virtue”
- 311
„if he is like God he will surely not be neglected by him”
- 312
„the clever unjust are in the case of runners, who run well from the startingplace to the goal but not back again from the goal: they go off at a great pace, but in the end only look foolish, slinking away with their ears draggling on their shoulders, and without a crown; but the true runner comes to the finish and receives the prize and is crowned. And this is the way with the just; he who endures to the end of every action and occasion of his entire life has a good report and carries off the prize which men have to bestow.”
- 313
„for every wrong which they had done to any one they suffered tenfold; or once in a hundred years—such being reckoned to be the length of man's life, and the penalty being thus paid ten times in a thousand years. If, for example, there were any who had been the cause of many deaths, or had betrayed or enslaved cities or armies, or been guilty of any other evil behaviour, for each and all of their offences they received punishment ten times over, and the rewards of beneficence and justice and holiness were in the same proportion.”
- 314
„Lachesis lots and samples of lives, and having mounted a high pulpit, spoke as follows: 'Hear the word of Lachesis, the daughter of Necessity. Mortal souls, behold a new cycle of life and mortality. Your genius will not be allotted to you, but you will choose your genius; and let him who draws the first lot have the first choice, and the life which he chooses shall be his destiny. Virtue is free, and as a man honours or dishonours her he will have more or less of her; the responsibility is with the chooser—God is justified.”
- 315
„A man must take with him into the world below an adamantine faith in truth and right, that there too he may be undazzled by the desire of wealth or the other allurements of evil, lest, coming upon tyrannies and similar villainies, he do irremediable wrongs to others and suffer yet worse himself; but let him know how to choose the mean and avoid the extremes on either side, as far as possible, not only in this life but in all that which is to come. For this is the way of happiness.”
- 316
„For if a man had always on his arrival in this world dedicated himself from the first to sound philosophy, and had been moderately fortunate in the number of the lot, he might, as the messenger reported, be happy here, and also his journey to another life and return to this, instead of being rough and underground, would be smooth and heavenly”
- 317
„the choice of the souls was in most cases based on their experience of a previous life”
- 318
„they were all obliged to drink a certain quantity, and those who were not saved by wisdom drank more than was necessary; and each one as he drank forgot all things.”
- 319
„the tale has been saved and has not perished, and will save us if we are obedient to the word spoken; and we shall pass safely over the river of Forgetfulness and our soul will not be defiled. Wherefore my counsel is, that we hold fast ever to the heavenly way and follow after justice and virtue always, considering that the soul is immortal and able to endure every sort of good and every sort of evil. Thus shall we live dear to one another and to the gods, both while remaining here and when, like conquerors in the games who go round to gather gifts, we receive our reward. And it shall be well with us both in this life and in the pilgrimage of a thousand years which we have been describing.”
